These are the most flattering J Brand Jeans i have ever put on. I have a lot of J Brand, especially the 811 twill, but these make you look so skinny. I guess it is the zippers and the way they lay across your hip bones. I wear a 25 in most J Brand and that is what I got in these and they fit great. A little tight but have learned that J Brand stretches out some so not worried about that. They look great dressed up with t shirt and blazer, or just with t shirt for casual look. Am getting the black too. Highly recommend these jeans.