This item was defective. After 2 washes something weird happened with them - almost as if an elastic pulled internally or something in 2 spots with a deflated ballon effect in between the pulls. Very strange. This has never happened to me before with denim. They are now on their way back to Revolve and another pair is being put on hold for me and will be exchanged. I will try again and see what happens to this pair. I have a few pairs of Hudson jeans - this is a first.